<p>What's the point of a plan? Why invest the time and energy? Kate, Jen and Dennis come to the table to chat about the upside of having a plan before you dive head first into the deep end.</p>

What's the point of a plan? Why invest the time and energy? Kate, Jen and Dennis come to the table to chat about the upside of having a plan before you dive head first into the deep end.

Fail to plan, plan to fail

Created out of one public relations team's love for storytelling and each other, Kate Elliot, Jennifer Ashton and Dennis Mills come to the table with weekly episodes about always seeing the upside in their work and lives. Follow along on their journey @upsidepodcast

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Fail to plan, plan to fail

Fail to plan, plan to fail