<p>Jenny and Gina talk about what failure means and why we are so keen on avoiding it.</p>

Jenny and Gina talk about what failure means and why we are so keen on avoiding it.

Failing Up

Welcome to Very Real. A podcast where 2 friends chat about life, love, anxiety and bath towels. Join hosts Dr. Jenny Bennett and Regina Very Modesto as they do the one thing that 2 middle aged white women are best at: talk incessantly about shit. From politics to parenthood, they strive to understand how to make sense of, and be a positive force for this crazy fucked up world.

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Failing Up

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