In this episode, Renier and Jon  talk about their worst failures, how they grew from their experience, and the importance of accepting failure as a given when you're an entrepreneur.
We cover how Renier's agency's difficult restructuring process were crucial to it surviving the upheaval of the pandemic.
Jon talks about how getting fired at 19-years-old ended his underachieving days.

0:40 - We should celebrate our failures
1:00 - Renier's worst failures
9:20 - The ideal agency format to survive a pandemic
11:35 - The ad industry is a horrible place
15:45 - One of the best pieces of advice Renier's dad gave him
19:40 - The one where Jon gets fired
20:40 - A lens to look at failure through
23:50 - How can digital give you freedom to fail?
25:10 - The end of office politics
27:20 - Learning from failure
28:20 - Consistency kills failure and winning at wrapping up
 
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