<p>Center for Court Innovation Director Greg Berman speaks at an Urban Institute panel on the trial and error process
        in criminal justice.</p>

Center for Court Innovation Director Greg Berman speaks at an Urban Institute panel on the trial and error process in criminal justice.

Failure: Public Policy’s Stepladder to Success

New Thinking is a podcast about justice—and injustice—in America. It’s about the people working to fix a justice system that falls so short of our ideals, and the people organizing to build something new in its place. It’s hosted by Matt Watkins and produced by the Center for Justice Innovation (formerly Center for Court Innovation).

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Failure: Public Policy’s Stepladder to Success

Failure: Public Policy’s Stepladder to Success