This is the first installment of our new feature series called Crosswise 30. For this episode, Dr. Joel Oesch and Dr. Daniel Deen discuss the Trump-Biden presidential debate on the same day when, instead of a second debate, the two presidential hopefuls held town halls without the other candidate present. They discuss the ways in which they try to remedy this breakdown of civil discourse through their podcast series and through the annual summer event they lead with other colleagues: the Crosswise Institute.