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In this episode of Sacred and Strange, host Jay speaks with his close friend Kyle about their formative years, personal growth, and spiritual evolution. They discuss their history together, moving from their youthful struggles with cooking to their shared experiences at a ministry school. Kyle opens up about his journey from a conservative religious background to encountering a more compassionate view of God, and how this transformation has influenced his life, faith, and relationships. The conversation delves into the challenges and importance of vulnerability, the impact of Kyle's mother's illness, and his insights on emotional health and attachment styles. The episode concludes with reflections on the intersection of spirituality and emotions, and Kyle shares a fascinating UFO encounter before wrapping up with a prayer.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

01:31 Early Memories and Friendship

02:49 Kyle's Background and Faith Journey

05:13 Life at Ministry School

07:45 Formative Experiences and Personal Growth

16:27 Vulnerability and Emotional Honesty

22:31 Coping with Loss and Maintaining Core Values

25:17 Pursuing a Career in Social Work

26:34 Understanding Attachment Styles

27:20 Personal Journey with Vulnerability

28:33 Challenges in Therapy and Marriage

31:53 The Church and Vulnerability

34:41 Experiencing Trauma and Therapy

42:09 UFO Encounter Story

47:02 Interdimensional Theories and Beliefs

49:31 Final Thoughts and Prayer

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