On this episode of Faithly Stories, host Alicia Lee is joined by Mark Matlock—author, researcher, and Executive Director of Urbana 2025—for a powerful conversation on how curiosity not only shapes our personal faith, but also influences our ministries and the future of the Church.

Mark shares his journey from aspiring anthropological consultant to youth pastor, and now to his leadership roles with Barna and InterVarsity, where he explores the intersections of spiritual formation with data and culture. Together, Mark and Alicia reflect on how curiosity can become a gateway to deeper discipleship—especially in a post-pandemic world where churches are being called to rethink traditional evangelism and adopt more empathetic, story-driven approaches.

Their conversation explores regional spiritual climates across the U.S., the beauty of non-linear faith journeys, and the need for churches to become more curious, creative spaces for the next generation. Mark and Alicia also discuss the importance of nurturing passions outside of ministry and how living an integrated life can make faith more compelling to those outside the Church.

Website: https://www.faithforthecurious.com/

(00:01) Faith for the Curious' Podcast Interview
(07:26) Exploring Curiosity in Spiritual Growth
(18:29) Engaging Spiritual Curiosity Through Conversation
(30:41) Finding Connections Beyond Vocation
(36:49) Exploring Curiosity in Faith Growth
(45:13) Empowering Church Leaders With Faithly

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