Jen recounts her glamorous night out at a NYC gala. Then the ladies go deep on what it means to be open-hearted, as Jen tells the story of her first heartbreak and Betina talks about the doors that are being unlocked within her as she strives to move away from grind culture.

0:00 Intros

1:20 Jen’s glamorous night out, plus past celebrity sightings

15:14 Betina’s spiritual temp check (low and slow)

19:02 Betina unlocking doors/vantage points

22:36 Jen’s story of heartbreak / Betina moving away from grind culture

33:16 Milk-deficient moms / Betina’s resists idolizing the physical temple

39:00 Back story: How does faith shape friendship / Jen’s past lack of faith

51:14 Betina’s God-given friendships

59:35 Jen’s struggle with flaky communicators

62:40 Lisa Nichols's cup overflowing story

66:08 Jen tells a story from the movie Adaptation (that she’s never seen)

69:15 Recipes

Recipes: Sunday Dinner Favorite

Betina’s Smothered Chicken, Collard Greens, and Hot Water Cornbread

Chicken

Season chicken with Betina’s Go-To Four (Garlic powder, black pepper, Lowrey’s Seasoning Salt, and cajun seasoning; batter with flour

Brown meat in dutch oven

Gravy

Cut up 1 stalk celery, ½ onion, and ½ bell pepper

Cook in oil and butter until they begin to sweat, then add flour from chicken to bottom of pan

Add water/more flour to desired thickness

Add ½ can cream of mushroom soup

Tsp better than bouillon chicken plus 1 tsp dry bouillon

Add chicken back to gravy, put on lid and place in oven

Collard greens

Boil smoked turkey necks or smoked turkey legs in half pot water for several hours

Wash collard greens with vinegar and cut and add to pot

Cook for 30 minutes without seasoning

Remove all bones and gristle from pot

Season greens with a little bit of sugar, beef and chicken bouillon, and cajun seasoning

Hot water cornbread

Boil water and mix into bowl with 1 cup cornmeal, ½ cup flour, salt and sugar

Dollop patties into cast iron skillet coated with oil

Brown on both sides

Place on paper towel to cool

Serve with pot of rice on side

Music Credits:

00:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

14:56 “All Night Dance” - PØW

29:24 “Refried” - Ryan James Carr

38:47 “Search Friendly” - Chris Shards

50:54 “Can I Tell You” - Bonsaye

69:02 “I Wish I Was a Happy Fool” - Sven Lindvall

79:37 “Can I Tell You” - Bonsaye