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A green shirt in the lobby can mean more than a friendly hello—it might be the quiet promise that you can worship in peace. We sit down with Gus and Gary, longtime law enforcement pros turned church servants, to explore how God redeems our work and how practical vigilance can coexist with deep, joyful faith.

Gus traces his journey from a mixed religious upbringing to a Bible-centered church that shifted him from checking boxes to building a living relationship with Christ. Gary’s doorway was unexpected: Friday jiu-jitsu classes with a pastor who rolls on the mat and opens Scripture on Sunday. Together they explain how a safety ministry grew from instinct to intentionality—SOPs, training, and a calm presence—so families can focus on the Word while a thoughtful team watches the room.

The stories go deeper than procedures. Gus recalls a chase and a sudden, unexplainable stop at the woods—later learning the suspect waited with a gun. That pause, he says, was God’s protection. Both men share regrets about missed moments to point people to Jesus and how Scripture, mentors, and community have made them bolder and kinder. We talk about serving without fear, letting God lead our careers, and seeing setbacks as protection or redirection. We also widen the lens beyond Sunday: coaching Special Olympics, volunteering in the city, and living so visibly that people ask, Why are you different?

If you’ve ever wondered how your weekday skills could matter in a church, or how to balance vigilance with worship, this conversation offers hope, clarity, and next steps. Join us to learn how availability becomes ministry, why community shapes courage, and how God uses ordinary work to guard, guide, and grow His people. Enjoyed this conversation? Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help others find it.

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