It's not news to anyone that G & E love animals, but are the beloved pets in their homes also familiars? The Crones discuss what (or whom) can be considered a familiar spirit based on conventional wisdom, historical documentation, and intuition. They explore the idea of the familiar spirit across cultures and their affiliation, if any, with elementals. G & E also introduce Phil, the newest member of Eliza's household. The conversation devolves into skepticism of the fae and inter-spiritual diplomacy.