In this must-hear episode, Darryl Davis sits down with Hoby Hanna, President of Howard Hanna Real Estate Services—the largest privately held real estate company in the U.S.—for a raw, insightful, and timely conversation about the rapidly changing real estate industry.

They dive deep into:

• The heart and soul of Howard Hanna’s company culture—and why it’s been compared to the “Disney of Real Estate”
• The real story behind the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and why Hoby says it’s time to push back
• What most agents don’t realize about MLS overreach, antitrust lawsuits, and how they affect YOUR business
• How to navigate the new world of buyer agency agreements, compensation changes, and rising legal risks
• The untold danger of agents not adapting—and why the next wave of lawsuits could target individual agents
• How real estate leaders should innovate (not imitate) to build future-proof businesses

With over 68 years of family legacy, 15,000+ agents, and $40B+ in volume, Hoby pulls no punches. If you’re a real estate agent, broker, or team leader who wants to thrive—not just survive—post-NAR settlement, you cannot afford to miss this.

👉 Whether you agree or disagree with the CCP, this interview will challenge your thinking and leave you inspired to take control of your business future.