Family Legend Has It

Family Legend Has It

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Family Legend Has It episodes

  • Descended from Charlemagne? So Is Your Mail Carrier
    In 1941 a minister in the Pippin family wrote that they all descend from Charlemagne. A year later he admitted that proving it would be costly, and said family tradition made it too strong to deny. Ruth works the case with a doubling ancestor tree, a 2004 Nature paper on the common ancestry of all living humans, and a study of 2,257 Europeans that separates the ancestors on your family tree from the ancestors in your DNA. Danny defends the Pippins the whole way.
    The verdict: probably true, but in a way that is true for almost everyone, and it may have left no trace in your genes. The part of your family history you can actually prove is sitting at your Thanksgiving table. This week, ask your parent which famous ancestor the family claimed, who first told the story, and how they said they knew.
    Sources:
    https://www.oocities.org/hillypippin/wpe/node1.html
    https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555
    https://dx.plos.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555
    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1001555
    https://doi.org/10.1038/nature02842
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature02842
    https://www.scirp.org/reference/referencespapers?referenceid=2962419
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/product/identifier/S0001867800009587/type/journal_article
    https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0022519309003701
    https://news.yale.edu/2004/09/29/most-recent-common-ancestor-all-living-humans-surprisingly-recent
    https://www.nature.com/news/2004/040927/full/news040927-10.html
    https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-the-human-mrca-possibly-have-lived-just-3-000-years-ago.931918/
    https://doi.org/10.1017/s0022050723000293
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/charlemagnes-dna-and-our-universal-royalty
    https://wiki.rootsweb.com/wiki/index.php/Family_History_Etiquette,_Ethics,_Legalities
    https://www.uvm.edu/~nkenyon/CharlemagneAncestry.html
    https://dna-explained.com/2015/12/20/charlemagne-742748-814-holy-roman-emperor-52-ancestors-103/
    https://generaggs.substack.com/p/do-all-europeans-descend-from-charlemagne
    https://pifferpilfer.substack.com/p/does-every-european-descend-from
    https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/9781003129646/chapters/10.4324/9781003129646-11
    25 min
  • Hubbard, James E. and the Night the Records Burned
    Just after midnight on 12 July 1973, a fire broke out at the National Personnel Records Center outside St. Louis. It burned out of control for 22 hours and destroyed an estimated 16 to 18 million military personnel files. Ever since, "his records burned" has been the line that ends family war stories nobody can check. Ruth and Danny work the case: the night itself, what the loss actually covered (including a cutoff at one man's name in the alphabet), and the paperwork that survived around it, from charred files read with infrared light to morning reports that staff carried out of the burning building.
    The verdict is honest about both sides. These records can often place a man in a unit on a given day. They can't tell you about his courage, and the fire's own cause has never been settled. This week's question to ask your parent: Do you have Dad's discharge papers, and do you remember his unit and the year he got out?
    Sources:
    https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/fire-1973
    https://www.va.gov/records/get-military-service-records/reconstruct-records/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Personnel_Records_Center_fire
    https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2023/07/03/national-personnel-records-center-fire-series-the-fire/
    https://myvhn.org/learn/the-nprc-and-the-1973-fire
    https://doi.org/10.2352/issn.2168-3204.2016.1.0.6
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/st-louis-fire-veterans-records-b2373498.html
    https://musterandmemories.com/1973-nprc-fire-military-records
    https://everything.explained.today/1973_National_Archives_fire/
    https://www.military.com/va-veterans-denied-benefits-1973-records-fire-easier-refile
    https://www.benefits.va.gov/COMPENSATION/NPRC1973Fire.asp
    https://theerasedgeneration.com/
    24 min
  • The Clerk Who Wasn't There
    It's probably the best-known family legend in America. Great-grandpa steps off the boat, a tired official can't spell his name, and the family walks out with a new one. Ruth pulls the actual paperwork: passenger lists written up in Europe when the ticket was bought, inspectors who checked those lists instead of rewriting them, one strange exception in a New York Public Library post, and a Brooklyn man named Frederick Persky who went to federal court in 1913 to change his own record and was turned down. Danny defends the family version the whole way through.
    The verdict is Better Than True. Usually the person who changed the name is in the family photos, not at the inspector's desk. We also cover where the paper trail of a name change is kept today. Historical immigration files are moving from USCIS to the National Archives, and comments on the proposed rule (docket USCIS-2026-0331) close October 20, 2026. Requests for transferred files go to archives.gov/research. This week's question for your parent: When did we start using our name, and who decided?
    Sources:
    https://journals.ala.org/index.php/dttp/article/view/6655/8939
    https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/fall/ellis-island-manifests-1
    https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/fall/ellis-island-manifests-2
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/ask-smithsonian-did-ellis-island-officials-really-change-names-immigrants-180961544/
    https://www.nypl.org/blog/2013/07/02/name-changes-ellis-island
    https://www.uscis.gov/records/genealogy/genealogy-notebook/immigrant-name-changes
    https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/ellismythnames.html
    https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc38250/m1/364/
    https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc38250/m1/365/
    https://syfert.com/federal/district/cases/cl-8803600/in-re-perkins
    https://exa.ai/library/legal/opinion/jw1n80jy7hm
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-americans-changed-their-names-but-not-at-ellis-island/
    https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/08/21/2026-17119/genealogy-program-regulations-to-clarify-the-impact-of-federal-records-requirements
    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2026-08-21/html/2026-17119.htm
    http://courses.washington.edu/berlin09/Readings/Welzer_Grandpa.pdf
    https://www.geneamusings.com/2026/10/added-and-updated-familysearch-record_01810372944.html
    https://theyhadnames.net/2024/11/21/putting-familysearchs-experimental-full-text-search-to-the-test-a-case-study/
    24 min

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Every family has one story everybody repeats and nobody has checked: the name changed at Ellis Island, the bootlegger grandpa, the famous ancestor. Each week an investigator and a true believer take…