For this episode, Demi sat down with author A.J. Peterson for a special LIVE recording at Wintercon in Portland, OR.

We discuss why fantasy is great for providing hope and share a few of our favorite book for processing real world issues, pure escapism, and stories that helped us learn more about ourselves.

If you're in need of hope, this is the episode for you!

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Credits:

Host: Demi Utley, ⁠https://demiutley.substack.com/⁠

Special Co-Host: A.J. Peterson, Author & Editor

Find her at:

https://www.ajpeterson.com/

https://ajpeterson.substack.com/

https://www.instagram.com/dreamscape.editing/

Audio Production - Gregory Mikels

Additional credits for the music used during the intro and outro:

• Remix Composition & Production - Gregory Mikels

• Danse Sacrée composed by Claude Debussy 

• Public Domain

• Performed by the United States Marine Chamber Orchestra with Major Jason K. Fettig, conducting, MSgt Karen Grimsey, harp soloist on Aug. 14, 2010, at the Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall and Arts Center at Northern Virginia Community College in Alexandria, Virginia.

• The Carnival of the Animals composed by Camille Saint-Saëns 

• License - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en 

• Performers

• Pianos: Neil and Nancy O'Doan

• Orchestra: Seattle Youth Symphony, conducted by Vilem Sokol.

• Recorded 1980

Original music links:

• https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Danse_Sacr%C3%A9e.ogg 

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camille_Saint-Sa%C3%ABns_-_The_Carnival_of_the_Animals.ogg