Today we are joined by Ross Barkan, an award-winning journalist, novelist, and essayist. Ross is the Editor-in-Chief of The Metropolitan Review, a contributing writer to the New York Times Magazine, and a columnist for New York Magazine. He is also active on Substack, where he publishes his newsletter Political Currents. And he has a new novel, titled Glass Century, that is out now.

On this episode, we discuss Ross’s recent book Fascism or Genocide: How a Decade of Political Disorder Broke American Politics. The book focuses on the decade or so of American politics leading up to the 2024 presidential election, and the first part of the title comes from a quote from the director of an influential Palestinian advocacy group, who is quoted in the front flap of the book as saying of the 2024 election: “It’s a choice between fascism or genocide.”

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