To convince or not to convince...how do we confront climate change skeptics (and flat-out deniers?) Should we even bother? The solution is found in climate communication and education. In this episode, I interview Mr. Josh De Vincenzo, Assistant Director for Education and Training and Adjunct Lecturer at the National Center for Disaster Preparedness, Columbia University. He'll explain how to reach the non-believers and discuss strategies for climate communication. We also touch on the importance of equity in disaster justice. Listen to the end to hear my personal conclusion about dealing with deniers, and some brief thoughts as a young person wavering between fatalism and hope for the future of our planet.