His second podcast on location in Spain, Chris starts to ponder relationships, in particular fathers and sons.

Meet Chris who considered himself just; "A normal guy." At least that was, until his son, aged 22, took his own life. Now nothing is normal, and he's realising nothing ever was normal and nothing, will ever be normal again. My Argument with Grief explores the subject of suicide and how it affects young people in particular, through interviews, daily diaries and studio thoughts.