Justin brings up a text message screenshots Iimani posted on IG which turns into a discussion on what is the wildest text you have received this week (4:44) and top-emojis in your phone/what do they mean (8:35)? Iimani has decided she is not buying anyone any gifts for the holidays, so Justin shares his Buy Black Gift Guide (16:43)

Then Iimani apparently changes her mind, and adds to the list (19:19), while talking about buying from brands that align with what you believe in, buying more intentionally, and pushing the culture forward (22:23). Justin asks Iimani to define what is explicitly black (26:16), and if she believes that talent is nature or nurture?

Can talent run in genetics (34:22)? The age gap on social media between Millennials and Gen Z comes to light heavily during the next announced Verzuz battle between Ashanti vs. Keyshia Cole (44:18). December 4, HOV appreciation (56:38)