Accomplished writer, podcaster (Why Are People Into That?!?), educator, and kink connoisseur, Tina Horn joins Sarah and Robin to unpack consensual non-consent. Tina brings her signature wit and intellect to this nuanced discussion about total power exchange. The conversation covers why non-consensual dynamics can be enticing to explore in play and the metaphorical nature of fantasy play. We dive into how complicated it is to clearly define consent and dismantle rape culture, the appeal of monster sex, BDSM as storytelling, and we learn about the 90s heartthrobs that left an impression on Tina. The conversation wraps up with a glimpse into Tina's process of developing her riveting, sex-positive, sci fi dystopian comic book series SfSx.

CW: this episode touches on forced sex, and rape fantasies. Please take care while listening.

Tina Horn is the creator and writer of the sci-fi sex-rebel comic book series SfSx (Safe Sex). She is currently working on a book version of her long-running kink podcast Why Are People Into That?! and was the host and co-writer of the Wondery podcast series Operator. Her reporting on sexual subcultures and politics has appeared in Rolling Stone, Playboy, Hazlitt, Glamour, Jezebel and elsewhere; she is the author of two nonfiction books and has contributed to numerous anthologies including We Too: Essays on Sex Work and Survival, which she also co-edited. Tina has lectured on sex worker politics and queer BDSM identities at universities and community centers all over North America, and works as an on-set consultant for theater, film, and television including the dominatrix scenes of Pose. She is a LAMBDA Literary Fellow, an AVN nominee, the recipient of two Feminist Porn Awards, and holds an MFA in Creative Nonfiction Writing from Sarah Lawrence. You can follower her on Twitter and Instagram @TinaHornsAss and visit TinaHorn.net