What does your cueing style have in common with Mario Kart and a trip to IKEA? A lot more than you think.

In this episode, Barry and Shay answer a big question from inside the Conservatory: How do you balance giving clear technique cues with creating a fun, immersive experience?

They break down why fun isn't fluff (it’s actually the key to results), how over-cueing can kill the vibe, and why great music and thoughtful experience design matter more than ever.

With real stories from their early days as trainers, research-backed tips on creating flow states, and a hilarious Mario Kart training story you won't forget—this episode is packed with the mindset shifts and practical tools every instructor needs.

If you want your classes to be technically solid, emotionally addicting, and wildly effective, this one’s for you.

🎧 Listen now—and let’s rethink what makes a truly great class.

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