We’re back! With Sam on hiatus while life with littles hits full-speed chaos, Pam is joined by a familiar voice—her sister and guest co-host Wendy. This week, we tackle a very real fear: flying. Wendy spent decades traveling everywhere by ground only—because planes were a hard no—until she finally decided there had to be a better way and became determined to beat the fear instead of planning her life around it. She shares what actually helped, what didn’t, and tips that might surprise you. We also throw in some of our favorite travel tips, because if you’re going to face your fears, you deserve fewer travel headaches along the way. If fear has been quietly shrinking your world, this conversation is a reminder that courage doesn’t mean fear disappears—it means you decide it doesn’t get to call the shots anymore.