Gather round the cauldron for Michelle & Zachary's deep dive into fear and shame. The church LOVES to use fear and shame to keep us in our our nice neat boxes. So what happens when we start to get curious and ask questions about all the things THEY say we should stay away from? What if MAYBE we each have our own journey and explanation with say...witchcraft? Or with substances like alcohol? Let's talk about it together.

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