This feature podcast series is produced with the assistance of the Hewlett Foundation’s Cyber Initiative. They gave us a grant so we could spend more time focussing on issues around cyber policy, and today we’re really going to hook in to a topic that’s near and dear to my heart: alternative approaches to dealing with ransomware.

Regular listeners to the podcast would know that for the last year or so, my cohost Adam Boileau and I have been talking a lot about how governments might involve non law enforcement agencies in a response to the big game ransomware epidemic. To discuss that, we’re joined by Bobby Chesney, the co-founder of the Lawfare blog and a very highly respected figure in US national security circles.

After we hear from Bobby we’re chatting with Mieke Eoyang about more traditional cyber law enforcement concepts. Mieke is the Vice President of Third Way’s national security program and she’ll be joining us to tell us how traditional cybercrime enforcement might be improved.