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  • 63: Fedora as a Server? Would You Do It?

    Plenty of sysadmins will tell you Fedora is a great desktop and the wrong choice for a server. Is that still true, or is it a reputation Fedora hasn't outgrown? This week it's just the two of us, and we put the question to ourselves.

    We get into:

    • Where the hesitation actually comes from, and whether it describes the Fedora of today or the Fedora of a few years ago
    • What Fedora Server is, who it's for, and how it sits next to the image-based options
    • Whether bootc changes the math, when the OS is an image you build and roll back rather than a thing you upgrade in place
    • Fedora as an appliance, which Noah is seeing more of in industry, including one running inside a medical organization
    • Nine months of support, and what a live upgrade path would have to look like
    • Noah's argument that the thing standing between Fedora and a production server is not technical at all, it's a path of escalation, and that IT malpractice is a real category
    • We also go thoroughly off topic for a few minutes while Noah explains why ad targeting feels like your phone is listening to you, and why it isn't. Eric calls it out on air. We left it in.

      No guest this week. Just the two of us arguing in good faith and mostly landing on "it depends."

      So we want your answer. Would you run Fedora on a server, and why or why not? Bonus points if you have actually done it in production. Comments, the Matrix room, or, as Noah correctly points out, RFC 1149.

      Links:

      • Fedora Server
    • Fedora Server documentation
    • Fedora bootc documentation
    • FP054 BootC in the Wild
    • FP062 What is Hummingbird
    • RFC 1149, IP over Avian Carriers
    • 44 min
    • 62: What is Fedora Hummingbird Linux?

      Red Hat announced Hummingbird at Summit back in May. Five months later there are Hummingbird containers in the wild, a spin of Fedora Linux built on the same principles, and a full Bluefin ISO built on top of it.

      Scott McCarty is a senior principal product manager at Red Hat who kicked off Podman with the team and launched Red Hat Universal Base Image. Jorge Castro runs Project Bluefin and was last on the show back when it was still rpm-ostree. Noah is out this week, so Eric flies solo.

      We get into:

      • Two things launched at Summit, not one. Red Hat hardened images went generally available and Fedora Hummingbird Linux was announced, and they are not the same thing
      • The real difference between them, which comes down to whether there is a kernel in it. A container image will never boot. Add a kernel and it becomes a bootable container
      • Roughly 95 percent of Hummingbird comes from Fedora Rawhide, with the rest pulled from the major releases or run ahead of Fedora when something lands upstream first
      • Why patching speed suddenly matters, and Scott walking through time to exploit collapsing from two and a half years and a seven person team down to days for one person
      • Risk based versus compliance based patching, and why Scott will not call any of this more secure, only different
      • Utah Raptor, which Jorge built the first cut of in a bar on a dare, and what it took 13 people 22 days to turn into a shippable Bluefin
      • What it actually takes to point an existing bootc home lab at Hummingbird, which turns out to be a pointer change
      • Scott and Jorge both close with the same ask: tell them what you would actually use this for. The Fedora discussion threads are open, and there is a thread for every episode of this show.

        Special Guests: Jorge Castro and Scott McCarty.

        Links:

        • Fedora Hummingbird on Fedora Discussion
      • Fedora Hummingbird on Fedora Forge
      • Red Hat Hardened Images
      • Chasing the holy grail, why Hummingbird aims for near zero CVEs
      • Project Bluefin
      • Utah, Bluefin built on Fedora Hummingbird
      • Fedora bootc documentation
      • RamaLama
      • goose
      • Background on Claude Mythos
      • Scott McCarty on LinkedIn
      • Jorge Castro on LinkedIn
      • 48 min
      • 61: Framework Laptop 12 Meets Fedora

        Framework does not have a storefront you can walk into. What they do have is a laptop you can order that arrives with Fedora already on it, and a screwdriver in the box.

        Michael Tunnell is the Senior Marketing Manager for Linux Marketing at Framework, and spent years covering this ecosystem at TuxDigital before joining. Noah is back this week after missing the last episode while stuck forty feet up on a scissor lift with a dead battery.

        We get into:

        • Why Fedora KDE, and why the answer is a boring technical one: KDE tested best for stylus and touchscreen, and Fedora moves fast enough on the kernel for brand new silicon
        • The 80 percent of Laptop 12 owners already running Linux, measured before any preload existed, so every one of them installed it themselves
        • What "officially supported" means at Framework: engineering collaboration with the distro, support for the distro, and a dedicated Linux support specialist a customer can actually reach
        • Real upstream fixes, including a CPU limiter and thermals bug on Wildcat Lake, audio modules, and screen rotation, all landed in Fedora and the kernel
        • The expansion card system, with two of the four slots on the 12 running Thunderbolt 4
        • ZMK open source keyboard firmware, published CAD files, and 3D printable components
        • What it costs a company to commit to repairability instead of planned obsolescence
        • There is a written companion post at https://itguyeric.com/blog/fedora-ep61-framework-laptop-12/

          Special Guest: Michael Tunnell.

          Links:

          • Framework Laptop 12
        • Framework Linux support
        • Fedora Magazine: Framework Laptop 12 Arrives with Fedora Pre-installed
        • Framework blog: Laptop 12 now with Core Series 3
        • Fedora Podcast 44 with Matt Hartley
        • Michael Tunnell
        • TuxDigital
        • Companion post
        • Watch on YouTube
        • Watch on PeerTube
        • 39 min
        • 60: Changing of the Guard, the New Fedora Community Architect

          Fedora has a job whose entire purpose is the health of the community around the distribution, and this month a new person took it over. So we got both of them on at once.

          Justin Wheeler has held the Fedora Community Architect seat since 2022 and is moving into a new role as AI Alignment Community Architect. Shaun McCance is stepping into the Fedora role while staying on as CentOS Community Architect. Noah is out this episode, so Eric hosts solo.

          We get into:

          • Where the role came from, why Robyn Bergeron pushed for it in 2015, and how it went from community outreach and impact lead to Fedora Community Architect in January 2023
          • What actually lands on the desk: a Council seat, the Mindshare Committee, the Code of Conduct Committee, budget stewardship, and Flock
          • How Mindshare funding works for ambassadors, local organizers, and anyone who just needs a box of stickers and will write an event report
          • Justin's new AI Alignment role, why he wrote his own job description, and why he thinks community consent on AI has to be earned rather than assumed
          • This Week in Fedora, and the argument that started when a bot began ingesting messages from a public but non-indexed Matrix room
          • What Shaun brings from CentOS and from years as GNOME Foundation treasurer, and what he finds daunting about Fedora's breadth
          • Why one shared budget spreadsheet is not a merger, and what stays separate on purpose
          • Where to find both projects: CentOS Connect January 28 and 29 in Brussels, DevConf US September 24 and 25 in Boston, Texas Linux Fest in November, and All Things Open
          • There is a written companion post at https://itguyeric.com/blog/fedora-ep60-changing-of-the-guard/

            Special Guests: Justin Wheeler and Shaun McCance.

            Links:

            • The announcement on Fedora Magazine
          • Fedora Podcast planning on Fedora Forge
          • Fedora Community Architect role charter
          • CentOS Connect
          • Flock to Fedora
          • Shaun McCance on LinkedIn
          • Justin Wheeler on LinkedIn
          • Justin Wheeler's blog
          • Companion post
          • Watch on YouTube
          • 51 min
          • 59: What is CentOS?

            A couple of episodes ago we talked to Carl George about EPEL, and half that conversation ended up being about CentOS. The questions kept coming, so we made a whole episode out of it.

            This is the biggest panel the show has ever had. Amy Marrich chairs the CentOS Board and does technical marketing for OpenStack at Red Hat. Troy Dawson leads the CentOS Stream team, sits on the board, and builds CentOS Stream for RISC-V. Shaun McCance is the CentOS Community Architect, and as of two weeks ago the Fedora Community Architect as well.

            We get into:

            • Why CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream are different projects, and why one of them retired around RHEL 9
            • The pipeline: Fedora, then Fedora ELN, then CentOS Stream, then RHEL, and why Btrfs is the example everyone reaches for
            • How Stream and RHEL now build from the same commit, on a one-week cadence versus six months
            • Why partners shipped on RHEL 9 launch day because they had been building against Stream 9
            • How the board actually works, why only one seat speaks for Red Hat, and what the SIGs and the SIG Council do
            • Where to file a bug (against RHEL, not at Troy)
            • How to contribute without writing code, and why being new makes you good at documentation
            • There is a written companion post at https://itguyeric.com/blog/fedora-ep59-what-is-centos/

              Special Guests: Amy Marrich, Shaun McCance, and Troy Dawson.

              48 min
            • 58: Where Can You Engage with Fedora?

              Fedora is a huge project with a lot of doors in. In this episode Eric and Noah walk through the different ways to find your people in Fedora, from real time chat on Matrix to long form discussion on Fedora Discourse, reading Fedora Magazine, getting a friendly hand from the Join SIG, and catching up on project wide activity through This Week in Fedora. If you have ever wondered where to start, this one is for you.

              Chapters

              00:00 Intro
              01:57 What is Matrix?
              05:19 Fedora on Matrix
              11:18 Matrix clients: Element and beyond
              20:01 Fedora Discourse
              23:14 Fedora Magazine
              30:07 The Join SIG
              33:22 What can I do for Fedora?
              36:51 This Week in Fedora
              44:56 Wrap-up

              Links from this episode

              Fedora Chat (Matrix): https://chat.fedoraproject.org
              Fedora Discourse: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org
              Fedora Magazine: https://fedoramagazine.org
              Fedora Join SIG: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
              This Week in Fedora: https://abompard.fedorapeople.org/twif/
              Fedora Community Blog: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org
              What can I do for Fedora?: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/

              New to Fedora? Get started: https://fedoraproject.org/

              Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
              Join the conversation on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
              Become part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
              Connect with Eric the IT Guy: https://linktr.ee/itguyeric
              Connect with Noah Chelliah: https://noahc.us/about

              Fedora #Linux #Matrix #FedoraMagazine #OpenSource #FOSS #Community #GetInvolved #Podcast

              Licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0.

              46 min
            • 57: What is EPEL

              EPEL is one of those repos a lot of us turned on without thinking twice. This episode, Noah and Eric sit down with Carl George, who leads the EPEL team at Red Hat, to explain what EPEL actually is, the golden rule that gives it its reputation, and the changes Carl is proposing for EPEL 11. If you run enterprise Linux, or you have ever typed dnf install epel-release, this one is for you.

              Carl is collecting feedback on the EPEL 11 idea right now, so give it a listen and jump into the thread.

              Chapters

              00:00 Intro
              01:12 Meet Carl George
              04:25 What is EPEL?
              07:50 EPEL's golden rule
              09:32 Getting started: CRB + epel-release
              10:38 Who governs EPEL
              16:08 The road to EPEL 10
              21:45 Minor versions and the EPEL team
              24:44 The private mirror problem
              34:09 Cleaning it up in EPEL 11
              40:26 Getting involved & RPM packaging
              50:36 Wrap-up

              Links from this episode

              EPEL 11 discussion thread: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/looking-back-at-epel-10-and-forward-to-epel-11/197373
              EPEL branches documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/branches/
              How to request an EPEL package: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-package-request/
              What can I do for Fedora?: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
              Join the Package Maintainers: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/
              RPM packaging lab (RHDP): https://zero.rhdp.net/lab/zt-rhelbu.zt-rpmbuild.prod

              New to Fedora? Get started: https://fedoraproject.org/

              Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
              Join the conversation on Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
              Become part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
              Connect with Eric the IT Guy: https://linktr.ee/itguyeric

              Our guest: Carl George, EPEL Team Lead at Red Hat (https://fedoraproject.fireside.fm/guests/carl-george)

              Fedora #EPEL #Linux #RHEL #CentOS #EnterpriseLinux #RPM #OpenSource #SysAdmin #Podcast

              Licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0.

              Special Guest: Carl George.

              52 min
            • 56: Fedora Contributor Recognition Winners 2026

              The Fedora Contributor Recognition Program just wrapped its second year, and the winners were announced live at Flock. On this episode of the Fedora Podcast, we sit down with a couple of them: Ankur Sinha and Justin Forbes, to talk about the work that earned them recognition and what keeps them showing up for Fedora year after year.

              We cover Ankur's long-running stewardship of the Join SIG and his work on NeuroFedora, and Justin's work keeping the Fedora kernel reliable, secure, and up to date. Two very different corners of the project, one shared thread of contribution.

              If you have ever wondered what it takes to leave a lasting mark on Fedora, this episode is full of answers.

              The Fedora Podcast brings you exclusive interviews and deep dives with the innovators and contributors who make the Fedora community amazing! From cutting-edge technologies to the production of the Fedora distribution itself, we chat with the minds behind it all. Whether you're a longtime user or just curious, there's always something new to discover in the world of Fedora.

              🎬 New to Fedora? Get Started Here: https://fedoraproject.org/

              πŸŽ™οΈ Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
              πŸ’¬ Join the Conversation: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
              🌐 Become Part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
              πŸ“± Connect with Eric "the IT Guy" Hendricks: https://itguyeric.com

              πŸ”— Episode Resources

              Contributor Recognition Program 2026 Wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Contributor_Recognition_Program_2026
              Announcement Thread: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/meet-the-2026-fedora-contributor-recognition-program-winners/194595

              Chapters

              00:00 Stream start
              00:36 Contributor Recognitions
              01:54 Introductions
              07:36 Award experience
              15:56 Join SIG
              28:38 Kernel team
              44:00 NeuroFedora
              51:38 Closing thoughts
              59:30 Wrap up

              Special Guests: Ankur Sinha and Justin Forbes.

              59 min
            • 55: Fixing Fedora's Packaging Pipeline

              Getting a package into Fedora takes more than just writing a spec file. There's a review queue, a sponsorship bottleneck, and a contribution process that can feel opaque to newcomers. Jakub Kadlcik has spent a decade inside that pipeline as a Copr developer and maintainer, and he's been quietly building tools to fix the parts that frustrate him most. From the Fedora Review Service that automates package review CI, to a sponsor-finder that helps new contributors navigate one of open source's less-discussed gatekeeping challenges, Jakub is reshaping how packaging works in Fedora. He'll also share what he thinks needs to change when src.fedoraproject.org moves to Forgejo, and why his live coding YouTube channel is pulling in way more viewers than he expected.

              The Fedora Podcast brings you exclusive interviews and deep dives with the innovators and contributors who make the Fedora community amazing! From cutting-edge technologies to the production of the Fedora distribution itself, we chat with the minds behind it all. Whether you're a longtime user or just curious, there's always something new to discover in the world of Fedora.

              🎬 New to Fedora? Get Started Here: https://fedoraproject.org/

              πŸŽ™οΈ Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
              πŸ’¬ Join the Conversation: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
              🌐 Become Part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
              πŸ“± Connect with Eric "the IT Guy" Hendricks: https://linktr.ee/itguyeric

              πŸ”— Episode Resources

              Copr: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/

              Fedora Review Service: https://github.com/FrostyX/fedora-review-service
              Fedora Packager Sponsors: https://packager-sponsors.fedoraproject.org/
              FrostyX Unscripted (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/@frostyx-unscripted/videos
              Fedora Package Sources (Forgejo migration): https://src.fedoraproject.org/
              Jakub's Contributor Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3e3W00KqVI

              πŸ”– Chapters

              00:00 Stream start
              01:13 Meet Jakub
              05:13 What is Copr
              11:40 Package review bottleneck
              22:23 Finding a sponsor
              29:25 Per-commit package checks
              35:10 Naming things is hard!
              37:57 Forgejo Migration
              44:04 FrostyX Unscripted
              48:38 Outro

              Special Guest: Jakub Kadlcik.

              52 min
            • 54: BootC in the Wild

              What does bootc look like when it's actually running in production, not just in a lab? James Harmison joins the Fedora Podcast to talk about building custom bootc images across wildly different contexts: NVIDIA drivers, AGX Orin hardware with custom kernel RPMs, replacing RHCOS images in OpenShift, and even a stripped-down SteamOS-style couch gaming rig. We also get into his contributions to the Chunkah project and the real-world UX conversations shaping where bootc goes next.

              The Fedora Podcast brings you exclusive interviews and deep dives with the innovators and contributors who make the Fedora community amazing! From cutting-edge technologies to the production of the Fedora distribution itself, we chat with the minds behind it all. Whether you're a longtime user or just curious, there’s always something new to discover in the world of Fedora.

              🎬 New to Fedora? Get Started Here: https://fedoraproject.org/

              πŸŽ™οΈ Follow the Fedora Podcast: https://podcast.fedoraproject.org
              πŸ’¬ Join the Conversation: https://matrix.to/#/#podcast:fedoraproject.org
              🌐 Become Part of the Fedora community: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
              πŸ“± Connect with Eric "the IT Guy" Hendricks: https://linktr.ee/itguyeric
              πŸ“± Connect with Noah Chelliah (Kernellinux): https://noahc.us/about

              πŸ”— Episode Resources

              Project Website: https://bootc.dev
              Bootc upstream: https://github.com/containers/bootc
              Fedora bootc docs: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/bootc
              Bootc Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#bootc:fedoraproject.org

              πŸ”– Chapters

              00:00 Stream start
              01:41 Introduction
              05:27 What is bootc?
              12:21 James' operations
              20:40 Use cases
              28:00 Chunkah
              33:04 Getting involved

              Special Guest: James Harmison.

              36 min

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