In this wide ranging conversation, Janus Adams speaks with Felipe Zurita Quintana about his journey from a conservative upbringing in Chile and deep immersion in Mormonism—including serving a mission during California’s Prop 8 campaign— to coming out as queer, leaving the church, and dedicating his life to the work of compassion.

Together, they explore how religion can both wound and heal, what it takes to reclaim one’s spiritual and moral agency, and why compassion—starting with self compassion—may be one of the most radical tools we have in today’s fractured world.