In this episode, Caroline speaks with JoJo Kirkley about feminism as a collective project, not one limited to women and girls. JoJo reflects on her work in theatre for social change, the challenges faced by women in family court systems, and the importance of engaging young people in conversations about misogyny and gender‑based violence. The discussion explores how creative practice can preserve women’s stories, challenge harmful narratives, and contribute to more equitable responses to harm.