The recent self-immolation by serviceman Aaron Bushnell to protest U. S. support of the Israeli killings in Palestine brings to light past military service member protests on the U. S. involvement in wars. Mike Ferner, National Director of Veterans for Peace, talks about his change to conscientious objector status following his experiences in Vietnam. Ferner discusses the “madmen arsonists who are running the country” and how the weapon manufacturers are pushing the country to light the fires of war around the world.

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