TGIF and also for this podcast. On this week's episode Tara and Tobi dissect the R.Kelly interview that has everyone saying WTF. Gayle King's top class skills and R. Kelly's girlfriends.  Despite the jokes and memes we also get down to why we struggle with letting "heroes" go, the problematic nature of enablers and how this translates to Micheal Jackson and the recent attention on him and his legacy.  In the Out of Pocket segment Tobi gives Tara free reign as she calls out the use of black women as props, being adjacent to blackness and the problematic expectation of women and makeup.