Mike talks with Justin Talbot Zorn, who has served as Legislative Director to three Members of Congress and is a Senior Adviser to the Center for Economic and Policy Research. In his policy and communications work, Justin specializes in climate, innovation, manufacturing, and economic competitiveness. In this conversation, Mike and Justin focus on PFAS ‘forever chemicals’ and environmental policy.

Topics Mike and Justin discuss include:

- why the US Air Force isn’t cleaning up water it contaminated with PFAS

- the military’s big PFAS problem

- costs and benefits of cleaning up PFAS in the water supply

- what to expect concerning PFAS regulation in the Trump administration

- plausible worst and best-case scenarios for the next four years

Justin’s article on Trump’s testicle shrinking deregulation.

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