I was already a big fan of Bill Badgley's documentaries about Karp and The Slits before he contacted me about wanting to do this podcast. His current project is the true crime podcast Killer Tape, which is about the Son of Sam. Join us as we discuss the process of getting a documentary made, podcast recording, creative organization, and more. I also "quote" Frank Zappa at one point, but then I looked it up and couldn't find the quote anywhere, so I think I dreamt it.