We’re staring into the abyss of 2011’s Final Destination 5 to see what will gaze back. While Josh is on tour with To Be A King, Billy and Mark sit down with Horrific Hope filmmaker, Jordan Miller, to talk about his film, The Only Ones and the challenges of bringing the meta slasher back into the conversation. In this episode, the gents discuss the fear of bridges, famous twists, iconic deaths and more. Get your tickets for Horrific Hope Film Festival here.

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Abyss Gazing: A Horror Podcast is a production of Victims and Villains is written by Josh “Captain Nostalgia” Burkey (& produced by), Brandon Miller & Billy Tabor. Music for this episode comes courtesy of Kevin MacLeod (https://bit.ly/agktheme) & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms).

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