In this episode, host Jim Love discusses the importance of cybersecurity awareness and training, featuring insights from Michael Joyce of the Human-Centric Cybersecurity Partnership at the University of Montreal and David Shipley of Beauceron Security. They explore the impact of cybersecurity awareness programs, the decay of sustained vigilance post-training, and the nuances between phishing reporting and clicking behaviors. The conversation also critiques recent research claims that question the efficacy of phishing training, emphasizing the need for continuous, empirically supported approaches in cybersecurity education. The episode highlights the value of balanced, layered defenses involving both technical solutions and informed user behavior.

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Announcement 00:14 Sponsorship Acknowledgment 00:35 The Nature of Cybersecurity Awareness 01:09 Introduction to the Research Show 01:21 Guest Introductions 02:15 Human-Centric Cybersecurity Partnership 03:46 The Importance of Canadian Research 04:40 Cybersecurity and Culture 05:27 The Role of Research in Cybersecurity 07:12 David's Research and Collaboration with Michael 08:46 The Value of Independent Research 13:33 Cybersecurity Awareness Month Impact 17:23 Phishing Simulation and Reporting 23:49 Awareness Decay and Vigilance 30:55 The Importance of Reporting and Feedback Loops 40:00 Optimal Frequency for Cybersecurity Training 40:27 Critiques and Misconceptions in Phishing Training 42:00 Empirical Data and Training Effectiveness 43:19 Insights from Phishing Simulations 47:14 Understanding Why People Click 52:43 Challenges in Cybersecurity Research 01:04:06 The Importance of Layered Defenses 01:17:17 Concluding Thoughts on Cybersecurity Training