In this final episode, our guest host, John Simons, interviews Pastor Jeff, as we celebrate and draw to a close the MLN podcast. Pastor Jeff discusses all that he's learned through the 6+ years of recording the podcast, the importance of building relationships with many of the guests, and how to keep growing as a leader. As a senior pastor, there is no shortage of leadership opportunities and the stress that can follow it. Yet, God is always there to take refuge in and learn by being in the Word.