Friend of the show, Reverend Catharine Clarenbach, is the founder and 
creator of the Way of the River, a business that helps people more fully 
connect to their own deepest, wisest selves. Catharine offers spiritual 
accompaniment, coaching, preaching, and courses available through her 
website, Facebook community, and newsletter, Journey Through Wisdom. First 
joining us on episode 72, Catharine returns to discuss how her business 
continues to evolve by scaling and growing her team. Learn more about how 
you can change your mind in business and still work towards you long-term 
goals.

148: Find More Ease In Your Business with Catharine Clarenbach, Founder of the Way of the River

The Out Entrepreneur is a weekly Podcast where Rhodes Perry connects with today’s most authentic LGBTQ entrepreneurs. The show was created for you, the LGBTQ entrepreneur, business owner, or start-up founder. It was also designed to inspire more people to consider the entrepreneurial journey. During your daily commute, workout, or leisure time, allow Rhodes Perry to share actionable advice, and introduce you to some of the 1.4 million LGBTQ entrepreneurs crushing it in business, all while bringing their whole selves to work. Each episode explores the journey of the successful out entrepreneur who reflects on the ups and downs of building their business, all in an effort to inspire you to take action, and unapologetically be your authentic self 100% of the time.

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Simma Lieberman is internationally known as “The Inclusionist,” because she 
creates inclusive workplaces where employees love to do their best work, 
and customers love to do business. She works with leaders of organizations 
who understand that while training in areas of diversity, equity, and 
inclusion (DEI) is important, sustainable change only occurs when DEI is 
integrated into the business strategy, and are part of the organization’s 
cultural DNA. Simma is also the author of 110 Ways to Champion Diversity 
and Build Inclusion and Stress Management for the Motivated, A Workbook For 
You.

160: Lead Inclusively During Uncertain Times with "THE" Inclusionist, Simma Lieberman

Any day now, the United States Supreme Court will decide if LGBTQ+ workers 
are protected from employment discrimination under the Civil Rights Act of 
1964. Regardless of how SCOTUS rules, what more could businesses committed 
to building fully inclusive organizations - businesses like yours - do to 
underscore their LGBTQ+ inclusion values during this historic moment? If 
this question sparks your curiosity, then consider tuning into this dynamic 
panel discussion and gain a better understanding of how they will impact 
the fate of LGBTQ+ workers.

Special Episode: Let's Talk About Sex, Business & the United States Supreme Court

John Volturo is an internationally recognized speaker and coach that 
focuses on LGBTQ+ equality in the workplace and the importance of having a 
diverse leadership to increase the bottom line. John has served as a 
C-Level executive in many recognizable companies and was responsible for 
building Tony Robbins’ brand and empire. John is married with his husband 
and lives in LA with their two daughters.

159: Achieve Success without Altering Your DNA with John Volturo, Founder of Volturo Coaching

Diane Conklin is the President and Founder of Complete Marketing Systems. 
For more than 25 years, she has helped business owners take their companies 
to six, and seven figures and beyond. She also leads, Queer Profits, a 
company that specializes in helping LGBTQ business owners intentionally 
grow and scale their businesses. Based in Atlanta, GA, Diane is a member of 
her city’s LGBTQ Chamber of Commerce and the Human Rights Campaign.

158: Keep Doing What You Do Best with Diane Conklin, President + Founder of Complete Marketing Systems

Elena Joy Thurston is an inspirational speaker and founder of the PRIDE and 
Joy Foundation. She grew up in a turbulent home, joined a conservative 
church as a teenager, put herself through college, married and birthed 4 
beautiful children, and then....life 2.0 brought a divorce, leaving/getting 
kicked out of her church, a beautiful love story and a successful new 
career! Her viral TEDx talk has paved the way for speaking engagements 
around the country.

148: Find More Ease In Your Business with Catharine Clarenbach, Founder of the Way of the River

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