In this episode, Jess talks to the listeners for the second time. She shares her first monumental experience with rejection and heartbreak when she was in eighth grade. She talks about how acting was always the love of her life and how painful it is when your dreams don't come true. She talks about her current goal of looking for magic everywhere amidst the disappointment.

Host: Jess Kaplan @nopesanddreamspod

Original Music: Ariana and the Rose @Arianaandtherose

Edited by: Peter Ney

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