Inside the C-Suite

Find Your Way or Make One | EP44

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What do you do when you're expected to be the moral compass and the legal expert - and you’re neither a therapist nor a lawyer?

In this real-talk episode of Inside the C-Suite, Christy sits down with Jocelyn King, the founder and CEO of Virgil HR, who went from overwhelmed HR exec to startup founder by asking a simple but powerful question: Isn’t there a better way?

Together, they unpack the messy middle of leadership - where pressure, purpose, and people all collide.

Tune in to hear:

  • Why Jocelyn swears by grit, grace, and Google (yes, really)
  • The communication skill that almost derailed her career - and how she turned it into her superpower
  • The hidden weight of sitting in the C-suite (and how to carry it without crumbling)
  • What HR leaders are really facing in a post-COVID, multi-state world
  • And the moment that made her say: If the tool doesn’t exist... I’ll build it myself

    • Whether you’re leading a team, building something from scratch, or just trying to keep your head above water - this episode is your reminder that there is always a way forward.

    And if you can’t find one?

    Make one. 

     

    Chapters:

    00:01:52 - Why HR keeps saying “I’m not a lawyer”

    00:02:22 - What grit and resilience really look like in a startup

    00:03:44 - The people who shaped Jocelyn’s leadership

    00:05:28 - Building a team you can trust

    00:05:42 - Leading through chaos without rituals

    00:07:12 - Traits that helped Jocelyn succeed

    00:08:01 - Turning communication into a leadership superpower

    00:09:15 - Jocelyn’s mantra for overcoming obstacles

    00:10:22 - What Jocelyn would tell her younger self

    00:11:51 - A startup failure that turned into growth

    00:15:01 - The biggest compliance issues HR leaders face

    00:17:51 - Why HR carries more weight than people realize

    00:18:38 - Where to meet Jocelyn at upcoming events

    00:19:14 - Jocelyn’s personal outlets and self-care habits

    00:22:08 - What makes Virgil HR different

    00:22:54 - What no one tells you about the C-suite


    | Connect with Us |

    Learn more about VirgilHR:

    https://virgilhr.com/

     

    Follow Jocelyn King:

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelynanneking/

    (She's the real deal: CEO of VirgilHR, HR Compliance Expert and Technology Innovator, & A Proud Dog Mom)

     

    Meet Jocelyn IRL at Upcoming Conferences:

    • SHRM Annual Conference - San Diego 2025
    • HRTech Conference - Las Vegas 2025
    • Transform (Already attended, but one of her favs!)
    • HRWest (Already attended, but she may return next year!)

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