Hey everybody, we took a week off from the podcast so Joel could celebrate his 30 year wedding anniversary in Alaska. We're back at it and in this episode Joel and Kirk Russell are joined by special guests Jerry Reimers and Joe Magnuson from the San Diego Football Officials Association. The focus of the discussion is on the importance of finding a mentor in the first few years as an official. Jerry shares his experience starting out as an official and the challenges he faced, while Joe provides insights on how to support and develop newer officials on the field. The episode also covers the role of technology in training and development during the off-season, as well as the value of attending camps and clinics to improve officiating skills. Take advantage of this insightful conversation for tips and advice on becoming a better high school football official.