What if joy isn’t in the big moments… but in the ones we usually overlook?

In this episode, Kirby sits down with Matthew (21) and Larisa (58) to explore what it really means to find joy in the everyday — through two very different stages of life.

From chasing achievements and social connection… to slowing down and finding peace in quiet moments… this conversation reveals how our relationship with joy evolves over time.

You’ll hear reflections on:
• How joy shifts from external validation to internal peace
• The role of connection, family, and being seen
• Why small, ordinary moments can feel the most meaningful
• Navigating responsibility, grief, and success
• Letting go of control and allowing joy to come naturally

This episode is a reminder that joy doesn’t have to be loud to be real.

Sometimes, it’s found in a quiet moment…
a simple routine…
or just being present with yourself or someone you love.