We recently published a conversation between Julien and Marva Sadler, the CEO of WBECS, the world’s largest coaching summit. Marva has a refreshing candor that is very disarming, and it was a really enjoyable show to do.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

- Why coaching is more effective than training

- Why most coaches don’t make as much as they should per year

- What to make of celebrity coaches and multi level marketing organizations

Enjoy the conversation!