Pamela Acker & Dr. Joel Hirshhorn: In Part One: Pamela who is an author & teacher discusses the undisputed evidence that is available to all of the link between using aborted baby cell lines in the manufacture and testing of C-19 vaccines and how this link makes receiving the current form of vaccine immoral. In Part Two: Dr. Joel who is a Congressional Office of Technology Assessment & National Governors Association Senior Official discusses why he wrote his book, Pandemic Blunder, that reveals that the