From his first "hack" (getting unlimited ammo on Oregon Trail) at age 12, O'Shea Bowens knew he liked working with computers. Despite studying a completely different field in college, he has built a successful career in cybersecurity. In this episode, he and Jason walk through his strategic path not just into infosec, but into progressively higher-level roles. They discuss the importance of effective communication, taking notes, and how determination can make a significant difference in getting the job you want - and succeeding once you get there.