In part 2 of this special 2-part episode, top cyber defense practitioner O'Shea Bowens joins our host Jason to continue their discussion about strategically building a career in infosec. They discuss key factors in determining the value of training and choosing the right training course for your desired career path, along with how to leverage certifications with your employer. They also discuss the necessary skills for moving into senior roles at work, and how effective communication plays a critical role in every situation.