Karen is back, fiesty as usual. Jeff Gruban joins Kevin and Karen, Liam Johnson and Nancy Weis-Gallager, after a lengthy absence from the show, to discuss different techniques for discussions with theists. Is it more effective to be passionate or persuasive? We also have a conversation with The Friendly Atheist Hemant Mehta about the challenges facing atheists in the United States, and round out the show with Father Vern, Another Brilliant Moment, and a rant from Kevin.

This episode was pre-recorded.