Will 2025 be the year of natural selection for MSPs? I sit down with Matt Lee of Pax8 to chat about the cybersecurity picture for 2025 and it comes down to those that choose to make changes in their company to mature their cybersecurity posture and those that do not... Those that do not are the MSPs that use excuses like, I'm to small, We don't have time, Our clients won't pay, etc. Stay until the end to catch some of the foreshadowing of future fireside chats in 2025.