We (Lainie and Chip) wanted to test some of our A.V. equipment and so decided to test-drive a new-to-them wine in the process. The conversation went well enough that figured "What the heck?" and released it as a podcast. It's actually the audio track ripped from a video, but we hope that our enjoyment of the wine, Alice Verdeca 2019 by Produttori Di Manduria, comes through loud and clear.