Jim Ellermeyer is joined once again by Natalie Bencivenga to catch up with the changes in her life, and coping with the changes due to Covid-19 Pandemic to discuss the zeitgeist, thinking in ideologies and ideas, hero worship, the common needs people want in their lives we seem to disagree on, slowing down during the pandemic to rebuild and accept the situation, escaping busy culture, and the rapid fire of social justice issues.

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