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Fixing Fairness: Turning DEI into Real Change with Lily Zheng


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Welcome to another enlightening episode of The Tech Girl Podcast hosted by Gertrude Chilufya! Today’s guest is Lily Zheng, an organizational psychologist and acclaimed author of DEI Deconstructed, The Ethical Sellout, and the powerful new release, Fixing Fairness.


In this episode, we unpack what it really means to build trust, fairness, and inclusion in today’s workplaces. Lily takes us beyond buzzwords sharing actionable strategies through they FAIR framework (Fairness, Access, Inclusion, Representation) and showing how organizations can move from performative allyship to measurable, lasting progress. Whether you’re a leader, change maker, or DEI practitioner, this conversation offers transformative insights on how to create systems—not slogans—for equity.


🔗 Connect with Lily Zheng:

🌐 Website: lilyzheng.co

💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lilyzheng308

📚 Get Fixing Fairness on Amazon!

🎧 Produced by LeTroy Gardner & Mario Washington | Fourcast Media

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Episode Timestamps


00:00 Introduction to the Tech Girl Podcast

00:49 Meet Lily Zheng: Organizational Psychologist and Author

01:38 The Need for Re-engineering DEI

02:03 A Personal Story of DEI Challenges

07:15 The Fair Framework Explained

09:43 Building Coalitions for Change

14:26 Repairing Harm in Relationships

27:21 Global Perspectives on DEI

33:45 Cultural Contexts of Inequality

36:19 Inclusion as Solidarity at Scale

46:59 Representation and Trust in Leadership

52:03 Recruitment and True Representation

58:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Podcast Produced by LeTroy Gardner & Mario Washington | Fourcast Media 🌐 pushplaypods.com

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The Tech GirlBy Gertrude Chilufya