In this episode, Brandon sits down with Stu Lackey and Jon Gordon, founders of Sound HSA, to discuss the intersection of sound money and sound health. They explore how the traditional $5 trillion U.S. healthcare system is burdened by administrative bloat and misaligned incentives, and how Bitcoin offers a path forward. Stu and Jon break down the massive benefits of the Health Savings Account (HSA) and how their company is finally allowing individuals to save real Bitcoin in a triple-tax advantaged vehicle.

In this episode, we cover:

• The Triple-Tax Advantage: Why the HSA is the ultimate savings vehicle—allowing for tax-free contributions, tax-free growth, and tax-free withdrawals for medical expenses.
• Real Bitcoin Custody: How Sound HSA bypasses paper ETFs and allows users to hold actual Bitcoin in their health savings accounts.
• Direct Primary Care (DPC): How independent doctors are bypassing insurance companies to offer better care, transparent pricing, and even cash or Bitcoin discounts.
• Medical Sovereignty and Nostr: The massive potential for using open-source protocols like Nostr to secure personal health records and regain medical privacy.
• The Move-to-Earn App: Sound HSA's lightning-integrated mobile app that rewards users with SATs for walking and staying healthy.
• The Bitcoin Physicians Network: A new non-profit society aimed at connecting medical professionals who advocate for Bitcoin and sound health policies.

Connect with Stu Lackey & Jon Gordon:

• Website: soundhsa.com
• Stu Lackey Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-lackey-ms-hci-34105a13/
• Jon Gordon on X / LinkedIn: @TheBitcoinYogi
• Bitcoin Physicians Network: bitcoinphysiciansnetwork.org

Connect with Brandon & Sovreign:

• Website: sovreign.io
• LinkedIn: Brandon Karpeles
• Nostr: @plebiAnon
• X: @sovreignX