In this Flashback Friday episode, Dr. Barbara revisits a tender, fiery conversation with worship artist and Jesus lover Steffany Gretzinger from the World Women's Wholeness Summit. In our current series, From Codependence → Christ-Dependence, we've been talking about codependence as a worship disorder. In this conversation, you'll hear how a lifestyle of worship, hunger for Jesus, and intimacy with God heals the roots of codependence, comparison, shame, and trauma. Steffany and Dr. Barbara talk about women arising in worship, nurturing "help thinking," worshipping in the most devastated memories, and becoming laid-down lovers who make their whole lives an altar to Jesus. Note: The thoughts and opinions expressed by our guests are their own and may not always reflect the views of Dr. Barbara or Heart Journey Ministry.