I’m trying something a bit different in this short 22 minute episode. I rant about two flawed ICS mantras that are gaining traction and detract from useful discussions, and there is an overview of the S4x19 agenda and OnRamp training.

1:47 Mantra: “If you are in critical infrastructure, you will be targeted. If you are targeted, you will be compromised”.

14:06 Mantra: If it isn’t secure, it isn’t safe.