Many westerners do not know what it is like to be in a war, the difficult choices about leaving home, and then being a refugee. In this podcast, we interview Vova and Marina Gorbenko about their flight from Zaporozhye, Ukraine in March 2022. They give their perspective on the invasion and the difficulties of leaving one's home and country.

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Centrally Speaking is a ministry of Central Schwenkfelder Church in Lansdale, PA USA. Website: www.cscfamily.org